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		<title>Comment on 2008 is the new 1999 by zaxecusamib</title>
		<link>http://dcmoc.com/blog/2008/07/18/2008-is-the-new-1999/comment-page-1/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>zaxecusamib</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 05:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Managing the consequences by Andy</title>
		<link>http://dcmoc.com/blog/2009/01/22/managing-the-consequences/comment-page-1/#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post for a free thinking Friday.  I disagree with the Pfeffer quote - there are times when research/analysis is appropriate and effective.  With that said, I like the idea of being iterative, getting to market quickly, and making mistakes early.  You just can&#039;t make big mistakes.  You have to be able to control scope.  You have to have streamlined (inexpensive) processes.  You have to press out overhead.  You have to have the ability to quickly spot and fix mistakes you&#039;ve made.  If you can&#039;t manage risk downstream, then you have to manage it upstream.   

One of the best things I&#039;ve read on this is a book called Getting Real, by 37 Signals.  You can read it for free at:  

http://gettingreal.37signals.com/toc.php</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post for a free thinking Friday.  I disagree with the Pfeffer quote &#8211; there are times when research/analysis is appropriate and effective.  With that said, I like the idea of being iterative, getting to market quickly, and making mistakes early.  You just can&#8217;t make big mistakes.  You have to be able to control scope.  You have to have streamlined (inexpensive) processes.  You have to press out overhead.  You have to have the ability to quickly spot and fix mistakes you&#8217;ve made.  If you can&#8217;t manage risk downstream, then you have to manage it upstream.   </p>
<p>One of the best things I&#8217;ve read on this is a book called Getting Real, by 37 Signals.  You can read it for free at:  </p>
<p><a href="http://gettingreal.37signals.com/toc.php" rel="nofollow">http://gettingreal.37signals.com/toc.php</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Managing the consequences by Dr. Toni Greif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr. Toni Greif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As you indicated Pfeffer (1992) pointed out that no matter how well you analyze a decision there is no way of knowing that it will be a success until it is implemented and that we inevitably spend more time dealing with the consequences of our decisions than we do making them. I understand your concern with the consequences that we encounter because of the speed with which we often operate.  It seems to me that the challenge of first innovators like us, is to constantly adjust and ammend our decisions.  The pace of current operations means that the target is always moving.  Therefore, if the target moves, goal(s) move with it.  In keeping with this, as we learn new things, our strategies need to zig and zag in anticipation of the where we expect the target will align. This kind of fluidity means that we use our best judgements and are not afraid to make mistakes because mistakes are opportunities to learn and grow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As you indicated Pfeffer (1992) pointed out that no matter how well you analyze a decision there is no way of knowing that it will be a success until it is implemented and that we inevitably spend more time dealing with the consequences of our decisions than we do making them. I understand your concern with the consequences that we encounter because of the speed with which we often operate.  It seems to me that the challenge of first innovators like us, is to constantly adjust and ammend our decisions.  The pace of current operations means that the target is always moving.  Therefore, if the target moves, goal(s) move with it.  In keeping with this, as we learn new things, our strategies need to zig and zag in anticipation of the where we expect the target will align. This kind of fluidity means that we use our best judgements and are not afraid to make mistakes because mistakes are opportunities to learn and grow.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Judi</title>
		<link>http://dcmoc.com/blog/2008/05/16/web-20-in-a-corporate-world/comment-page-1/#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jan 2009 22:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Tyler. Giving up control is a very scary thing in the corporate world and moving forward without knowing exactly what to expect is frightening, too. Frankly, it&#039;s hard for me too, although I&#039;m starting to be able to let go a little bit. Please take a look at my latest posting about decision-making. I&#039;d be interested to read your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Tyler. Giving up control is a very scary thing in the corporate world and moving forward without knowing exactly what to expect is frightening, too. Frankly, it&#8217;s hard for me too, although I&#8217;m starting to be able to let go a little bit. Please take a look at my latest posting about decision-making. I&#8217;d be interested to read your comments.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 00:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a lot of fear in corporations of implementing the unknown or uncontrollable.  Perhaps even more important, corporate IT and business relationships and funding / decision cycles are designed to cater to known business needs with definable ROI and clear requirements (at least that&#039;s the theory ... ;).  Web 2.0 tools are more in the vein of &quot;build it and they will come&quot; -- blogs, wikis, etc all work best when you provide the tools and then see what problems people think they might solve.  I think all of this delays their adoption at corporations until someone comes up with a problem with enough ROI and political clout to get implemented -- which just happens to have a perfect Web 2.0 solution -- or an savvy executive becomes a champion of collaboration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a lot of fear in corporations of implementing the unknown or uncontrollable.  Perhaps even more important, corporate IT and business relationships and funding / decision cycles are designed to cater to known business needs with definable ROI and clear requirements (at least that&#8217;s the theory &#8230; <img src='http://dcmoc.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .  Web 2.0 tools are more in the vein of &#8220;build it and they will come&#8221; &#8212; blogs, wikis, etc all work best when you provide the tools and then see what problems people think they might solve.  I think all of this delays their adoption at corporations until someone comes up with a problem with enough ROI and political clout to get implemented &#8212; which just happens to have a perfect Web 2.0 solution &#8212; or an savvy executive becomes a champion of collaboration.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Sue Story</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the slideshow and I laughed when I saw the &quot;poke poke&quot;.  I think there are now some anti-poking groups on Facebook.  And then you have Superpoke where you can hug, hit, slap, etc.  I don&#039;t see myself doing that to my boss though.  Tempting as it may be!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the slideshow and I laughed when I saw the &#8220;poke poke&#8221;.  I think there are now some anti-poking groups on Facebook.  And then you have Superpoke where you can hug, hit, slap, etc.  I don&#8217;t see myself doing that to my boss though.  Tempting as it may be!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Sue Story</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Story</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expanding (somewhat) on what Andrew commented:  How does everyone feel about employers using Facebook and Myspace pages in their employment decisions?  I am in the I/O program, and quite honestly, I feel that if someone is going to put up questionable photos of themselves on whatever page representing them, then it is public domain and they can&#039;t control how that information is used.  In other words, don&#039;t whine when you don&#039;t get that job because that employer also has a myspace account.  As much as I try to express this to my younger friends (with drunken frat party pictures up), it seems to fall on deaf years.  But this is the age of the internet, folks, and nothing ever dies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expanding (somewhat) on what Andrew commented:  How does everyone feel about employers using Facebook and Myspace pages in their employment decisions?  I am in the I/O program, and quite honestly, I feel that if someone is going to put up questionable photos of themselves on whatever page representing them, then it is public domain and they can&#8217;t control how that information is used.  In other words, don&#8217;t whine when you don&#8217;t get that job because that employer also has a myspace account.  As much as I try to express this to my younger friends (with drunken frat party pictures up), it seems to fall on deaf years.  But this is the age of the internet, folks, and nothing ever dies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Caroline Hatfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Hatfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 00:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the school industry the big talk is the 2.0. I have set up a blog for my students at school to participate in discussion about music.  Students are so into technology that this appears to be one way to grasp their attention, however, it is not the answer to all the problems.  

Using common sense like with everything is going to be needed when responding to blogs, wiki etc, it is up to the teachers to teach the common sense rules to what and how to say things appropriately even using these tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the school industry the big talk is the 2.0. I have set up a blog for my students at school to participate in discussion about music.  Students are so into technology that this appears to be one way to grasp their attention, however, it is not the answer to all the problems.  </p>
<p>Using common sense like with everything is going to be needed when responding to blogs, wiki etc, it is up to the teachers to teach the common sense rules to what and how to say things appropriately even using these tools.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Judi Gronseth</title>
		<link>http://dcmoc.com/blog/2008/05/16/web-20-in-a-corporate-world/comment-page-1/#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Judi Gronseth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 18:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that we will eventually get to the point where codes of conduct will be applied uniformly regardless of the medium. Unfortunately, we&#039;re not there yet. As a trainer, I can think of dozens of instances when concepts or skills seemed like they&#039;d be easily transferred by users to a new situation, but it ended up being more complex than I ever imagined. It&#039;s the freak out factor: one thing changes and suddenly everything&#039;s an unknown. It&#039;s surprisingly common. I think that part of CMOC&#039;s mission as we implement new ways for staff, learners and faculty to work and interact is to help them transfer the knowledge that they have to new situations. In this case, that means transferring appropriate business or academic behavior to blogs, wikis, etc. As you point out, we already have codes of conduct - perhaps the best way to emphasize the similarities is to start with existing guidelines and just tweak them to make them apply equally to new technologies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that we will eventually get to the point where codes of conduct will be applied uniformly regardless of the medium. Unfortunately, we&#8217;re not there yet. As a trainer, I can think of dozens of instances when concepts or skills seemed like they&#8217;d be easily transferred by users to a new situation, but it ended up being more complex than I ever imagined. It&#8217;s the freak out factor: one thing changes and suddenly everything&#8217;s an unknown. It&#8217;s surprisingly common. I think that part of CMOC&#8217;s mission as we implement new ways for staff, learners and faculty to work and interact is to help them transfer the knowledge that they have to new situations. In this case, that means transferring appropriate business or academic behavior to blogs, wikis, etc. As you point out, we already have codes of conduct &#8211; perhaps the best way to emphasize the similarities is to start with existing guidelines and just tweak them to make them apply equally to new technologies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Web 2.0 in a corporate world by Andrew Gruhn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Gruhn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that as the web evolves, Instead of having to write up better guidelines, or rely heavier on common sense, users will realize that their conduct on the web and in person are the same:  there is no compartmentalized difference between the way one communicates online and in person.

Learners here are covered by the learner code of conduct - faculty and staff by similar documents.  These agreements/handbooks/codes of conducts, etc should all be written to be applied uniformly across the board, because while the medium changes the content communicated doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that as the web evolves, Instead of having to write up better guidelines, or rely heavier on common sense, users will realize that their conduct on the web and in person are the same:  there is no compartmentalized difference between the way one communicates online and in person.</p>
<p>Learners here are covered by the learner code of conduct &#8211; faculty and staff by similar documents.  These agreements/handbooks/codes of conducts, etc should all be written to be applied uniformly across the board, because while the medium changes the content communicated doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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